First of all the claymore is my new go-to for a stronger, more pliable hold. Only downside to the hair products is that the cans tend to rust if they're kept in a room with higher humidity (like a bathroom) which can sometimes get into the product. But there's an easy solution for that - I just keep it in the bedroom; I've found that that works. On a broader note, you guys are the best, for real. Much respect 💪. You honor your commitment to the integrity of your brand and stand behind your products, and I love that. Even more so they respond quickly to problems. They accidentally sent me out the wrong product and did everything they could to make it right, and they did. Not only did they expedite me the correct product but also allowed me to keep the Super Dry sent out by mistake (of which I also use). I respect a company that stands behind their name and makes every effort to satisfy the costumer rather than his or her own bottom line. Will he a lifetime customer because of that. Thanks Victory!